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On 15/12/21 13:55, Phil Hobbs wrote:
Gee, you atheist folks are so compassionate. How about, they love God
and love their church, and are praying for His aid and comfort in
their distress?
Er - no. I think such any behaviour is reprehensible.
I\'m just reporting what some religious people actually do
to other groups, in the name of their religion. For examples,
see history books and newspapers.
But an omnipotent God could have prevented them being in
distress in the first place.
Am 15.12.21 um 15:14 schrieb Tom Gardner:
On 15/12/21 13:55, Phil Hobbs wrote:
Gee, you atheist folks are so compassionate. How about, they love God and
love their church, and are praying for His aid and comfort in their distress?
Er - no. I think such any behaviour is reprehensible.
I\'m just reporting what some religious people actually do
to other groups, in the name of their religion. For examples,
see history books and newspapers.
But an omnipotent God could have prevented them being in
distress in the first place.
Reminds me of a kid who breaks a leg of his hamster
and then expects praise because he plays doctor so nicely
for the rest of the day.
On 15/12/21 13:55, Phil Hobbs wrote:
Tom Gardner wrote:
On 15/12/21 11:11, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 15-Dec-21 9:04 pm, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 15/12/21 07:42, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 12-Dec-21 1:01 am, Rick C wrote:
50 dead and it may rise to 100. Yet KY is seeing 60 deaths every day from
Covid and the count is on the rise again. KY only has a 53% fully
vaccinated rate. I suppose they don\'t fear a deadly disease.
So it stands to reason they don\'t fear tornadoes much either. I wonder if
they have anything in their building code that requires protection from
tornadoes? Most likely too many people demand their freedom from
intrusive building codes.
I saw that some people were praying to God outside their destroyed church.
Were they praying for a miracle or because there had been a miracle?
Well, I suppose they could have been thanking God for finally showing very
clearly that he doesn\'t give a stuff about them, so that in future they can
stop with the whole praying thing, and use their time for something they
actually like doing.
But probably not.
It is easy to imagine other possibilities, e.g. they were
thanking God for destroying the evil heretics from another
denomination. Ditto Godless people in general.
Gee, you atheist folks are so compassionate. How about, they love God and love
their church, and are praying for His aid and comfort in their distress?
Er - no. I think such any behaviour is reprehensible.
I\'m just reporting what some religious people actually do
to other groups, in the name of their religion. For examples,
see history books and newspapers.
But an omnipotent God could have prevented them being in
distress in the first place.
On Saturday, December 11, 2021 at 11:07:39 AM UTC-6, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, December 11, 2021 at 11:01:31 AM UTC-5, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
Rick C wrote:
50 dead and it may rise to 100.
How many are below 75.
Yet KY is seeing 60 deaths every day from Covid
How many are below 75.
What are you talking about???
--
Rick C.
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Add Dixie Alley to the long list of things I haven\'t heard of.
https://strangesounds.org/2019/09/us-tornado-map-these-twister-risk-maps-show-where-you-can-get-killed-by-a-tornado.html
On Saturday, December 11, 2021 at 11:07:39 AM UTC-6, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, December 11, 2021 at 11:01:31 AM UTC-5, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
Rick C wrote:
50 dead and it may rise to 100.
How many are below 75.
Yet KY is seeing 60 deaths every day from Covid
How many are below 75.
What are you talking about???
--
Rick C.
+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
Add Dixie Alley to the long list of things I haven\'t heard of.
https://strangesounds.org/2019/09/us-tornado-map-these-twister-risk-maps-show-where-you-can-get-killed-by-a-tornado.html
On Wed, 15 Dec 2021 14:14:06 +0000, Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
On 15/12/21 13:55, Phil Hobbs wrote:
Tom Gardner wrote:
On 15/12/21 11:11, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 15-Dec-21 9:04 pm, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 15/12/21 07:42, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 12-Dec-21 1:01 am, Rick C wrote:
50 dead and it may rise to 100. Yet KY is seeing 60 deaths every day from
Covid and the count is on the rise again. KY only has a 53% fully
vaccinated rate. I suppose they don\'t fear a deadly disease.
So it stands to reason they don\'t fear tornadoes much either. I wonder if
they have anything in their building code that requires protection from
tornadoes? Most likely too many people demand their freedom from
intrusive building codes.
I saw that some people were praying to God outside their destroyed church.
Were they praying for a miracle or because there had been a miracle?
Well, I suppose they could have been thanking God for finally showing very
clearly that he doesn\'t give a stuff about them, so that in future they can
stop with the whole praying thing, and use their time for something they
actually like doing.
But probably not.
It is easy to imagine other possibilities, e.g. they were
thanking God for destroying the evil heretics from another
denomination. Ditto Godless people in general.
Gee, you atheist folks are so compassionate. How about, they love God and love
their church, and are praying for His aid and comfort in their distress?
Er - no. I think such any behaviour is reprehensible.
I\'m just reporting what some religious people actually do
to other groups, in the name of their religion. For examples,
see history books and newspapers.
But an omnipotent God could have prevented them being in
distress in the first place.
Nasty people sneer at everything that\'s available.
On Sat, 11 Dec 2021 10:33:03 -0800 (PST), Dean Hoffman
deanh6929@gmail.com> wrote:
I was in one of those red dots, in Louisiana. It lifted the roof off
our house about an inch and dropped it back down. I had to go into the
attic and pound down about a hundred nail heads sticking up.
Tom Gardner wrote:
On 15/12/21 11:11, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 15-Dec-21 9:04 pm, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 15/12/21 07:42, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 12-Dec-21 1:01 am, Rick C wrote:
50 dead and it may rise to 100. Yet KY is seeing 60 deaths every
day from Covid and the count is on the rise again. KY only has a
53% fully vaccinated rate. I suppose they don\'t fear a deadly
disease.
So it stands to reason they don\'t fear tornadoes much either. I
wonder if they have anything in their building code that requires
protection from tornadoes? Most likely too many people demand
their freedom from intrusive building codes.
I saw that some people were praying to God outside their destroyed
church.
Were they praying for a miracle or because there had been a miracle?
Well, I suppose they could have been thanking God for finally showing
very clearly that he doesn\'t give a stuff about them, so that in
future they can stop with the whole praying thing, and use their time
for something they actually like doing.
But probably not.
It is easy to imagine other possibilities, e.g. they were
thanking God for destroying the evil heretics from another
denomination. Ditto Godless people in general.
Gee, you atheist folks are so compassionate. How about, they love God
and love their church, and are praying for His aid and comfort in their
distress?
On 15/12/21 13:55, Phil Hobbs wrote:
Tom Gardner wrote:
On 15/12/21 11:11, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 15-Dec-21 9:04 pm, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 15/12/21 07:42, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 12-Dec-21 1:01 am, Rick C wrote:
50 dead and it may rise to 100. Yet KY is seeing 60 deaths every day from
Covid and the count is on the rise again. KY only has a 53% fully
vaccinated rate. I suppose they don\'t fear a deadly disease.
So it stands to reason they don\'t fear tornadoes much either. I wonder if
they have anything in their building code that requires protection from
tornadoes? Most likely too many people demand their freedom from
intrusive building codes.
I saw that some people were praying to God outside their destroyed church.
Were they praying for a miracle or because there had been a miracle?
Well, I suppose they could have been thanking God for finally showing very
clearly that he doesn\'t give a stuff about them, so that in future they can
stop with the whole praying thing, and use their time for something they
actually like doing.
But probably not.
It is easy to imagine other possibilities, e.g. they were
thanking God for destroying the evil heretics from another
denomination. Ditto Godless people in general.
Gee, you atheist folks are so compassionate. How about, they love God and love
their church, and are praying for His aid and comfort in their distress?
Er - no. I think such any behaviour is reprehensible.
I\'m just reporting what some religious people actually do
to other groups, in the name of their religion. For examples,
see history books and newspapers.
But an omnipotent God could have prevented them being in
distress in the first place.
On Wed, 15 Dec 2021 14:14:06 +0000, Tom Gardner
spam...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
On 15/12/21 13:55, Phil Hobbs wrote:
Tom Gardner wrote:
On 15/12/21 11:11, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 15-Dec-21 9:04 pm, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 15/12/21 07:42, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 12-Dec-21 1:01 am, Rick C wrote:
50 dead and it may rise to 100. Yet KY is seeing 60 deaths every day from
Covid and the count is on the rise again. KY only has a 53% fully
vaccinated rate. I suppose they don\'t fear a deadly disease.
So it stands to reason they don\'t fear tornadoes much either. I wonder if
they have anything in their building code that requires protection from
tornadoes? Most likely too many people demand their freedom from
intrusive building codes.
I saw that some people were praying to God outside their destroyed church.
Were they praying for a miracle or because there had been a miracle?
Well, I suppose they could have been thanking God for finally showing very
clearly that he doesn\'t give a stuff about them, so that in future they can
stop with the whole praying thing, and use their time for something they
actually like doing.
But probably not.
It is easy to imagine other possibilities, e.g. they were
thanking God for destroying the evil heretics from another
denomination. Ditto Godless people in general.
Gee, you atheist folks are so compassionate. How about, they love God and love
their church, and are praying for His aid and comfort in their distress?
Er - no. I think such any behaviour is reprehensible.
I\'m just reporting what some religious people actually do
to other groups, in the name of their religion. For examples,
see history books and newspapers.
But an omnipotent God could have prevented them being in
distress in the first place.
Nasty people sneer at everything that\'s available.
On Sat, 11 Dec 2021 10:33:03 -0800 (PST), Dean Hoffman
dean...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, December 11, 2021 at 11:07:39 AM UTC-6, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, December 11, 2021 at 11:01:31 AM UTC-5, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
Rick C wrote:
50 dead and it may rise to 100.
How many are below 75.
Yet KY is seeing 60 deaths every day from Covid
How many are below 75.
What are you talking about???
--
Rick C.
+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
Add Dixie Alley to the long list of things I haven\'t heard of.
https://strangesounds.org/2019/09/us-tornado-map-these-twister-risk-maps-show-where-you-can-get-killed-by-a-tornado.html
I was in one of those red dots, in Louisiana. It lifted the roof off
our house about an inch and dropped it back down. I had to go into the
attic and pound down about a hundred nail heads sticking up.
It wasn\'t bad otherwise, some fence damage and some shingles ripped
off the roof. Down there, the real killers are hurricanes.
The US gets a lot of dramatic weather. A couple of feet of snow in the
sierras yesterday.
--
I yam what I yam - Popeye
Were they praying for a miracle or because there had been a miracle?
Well, I suppose they could have been thanking God for finally showing
very clearly that he doesn\'t give a stuff about them, so that in
future they can stop with the whole praying thing, and use their time
for something they actually like doing.
But probably not.
It is easy to imagine other possibilities, e.g. they were
thanking God for destroying the evil heretics from another
denomination. Ditto Godless people in general.
Gee, you atheist folks are so compassionate. How about, they love God
and love their church, and are praying for His aid and comfort in their
distress?
Hmmm... Seems like you don\'t understand that it was God who created
that distress, no? Or was it the devil? Or maybe Flip Wilson?
Just like when watching a lot of sci-fi movies, to believe in God
requires a very large dose of \"willing suspension of disbelief\". That
is to say, you must turn off scientific thought. The two are
irrevocably incompatible.
Combine that with the total lack of unequivocal evidence of the
existence of God and it is much easier to suspend belief in god.
On 15/12/21 13:55, Phil Hobbs wrote:
Tom Gardner wrote:
On 15/12/21 11:11, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 15-Dec-21 9:04 pm, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 15/12/21 07:42, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 12-Dec-21 1:01 am, Rick C wrote:
50 dead and it may rise to 100. Yet KY is seeing 60 deaths every
day from Covid and the count is on the rise again. KY only has a
53% fully vaccinated rate. I suppose they don\'t fear a deadly
disease.
So it stands to reason they don\'t fear tornadoes much either. I
wonder if they have anything in their building code that requires
protection from tornadoes? Most likely too many people demand
their freedom from intrusive building codes.
I saw that some people were praying to God outside their destroyed
church.
Were they praying for a miracle or because there had been a miracle?
Well, I suppose they could have been thanking God for finally
showing very clearly that he doesn\'t give a stuff about them, so
that in future they can stop with the whole praying thing, and use
their time for something they actually like doing.
But probably not.
It is easy to imagine other possibilities, e.g. they were
thanking God for destroying the evil heretics from another
denomination. Ditto Godless people in general.
Gee, you atheist folks are so compassionate. How about, they love God
and love their church, and are praying for His aid and comfort in
their distress?
Er - no. I think such any behaviour is reprehensible.
I\'m just reporting what some religious people actually do
to other groups, in the name of their religion. For examples,
see history books and newspapers.
But an omnipotent God could have prevented them being in
distress in the first place.
Tom Gardner wrote:
On 15/12/21 13:55, Phil Hobbs wrote:
Tom Gardner wrote:
On 15/12/21 11:11, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 15-Dec-21 9:04 pm, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 15/12/21 07:42, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 12-Dec-21 1:01 am, Rick C wrote:
50 dead and it may rise to 100. Yet KY is seeing 60 deaths every
day from Covid and the count is on the rise again. KY only has a
53% fully vaccinated rate. I suppose they don\'t fear a deadly
disease.
So it stands to reason they don\'t fear tornadoes much either. I
wonder if they have anything in their building code that requires
protection from tornadoes? Most likely too many people demand
their freedom from intrusive building codes.
I saw that some people were praying to God outside their destroyed
church.
Were they praying for a miracle or because there had been a miracle?
Well, I suppose they could have been thanking God for finally
showing very clearly that he doesn\'t give a stuff about them, so
that in future they can stop with the whole praying thing, and use
their time for something they actually like doing.
But probably not.
It is easy to imagine other possibilities, e.g. they were
thanking God for destroying the evil heretics from another
denomination. Ditto Godless people in general.
Gee, you atheist folks are so compassionate. How about, they love God
and love their church, and are praying for His aid and comfort in
their distress?
Er - no. I think such any behaviour is reprehensible.
I\'m just reporting what some religious people actually do
to other groups, in the name of their religion. For examples,
see history books and newspapers.
Are you proposing to take responsibility for all the evil done by
atheists? Such as the Holocaust, Holodomor, Great Leap Forward, Uighur
genocide....
Because, being such a rational guy, you\'d obviously see the logic of
your position.
But an omnipotent God could have prevented them being in
distress in the first place.
And a merciful God is very patient even with His enemies.
Tom Gardner wrote:
On 15/12/21 13:55, Phil Hobbs wrote:
Tom Gardner wrote:
On 15/12/21 11:11, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 15-Dec-21 9:04 pm, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 15/12/21 07:42, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 12-Dec-21 1:01 am, Rick C wrote:
50 dead and it may rise to 100. Yet KY is seeing 60 deaths every
day from Covid and the count is on the rise again. KY only has a
53% fully vaccinated rate. I suppose they don\'t fear a deadly
disease.
So it stands to reason they don\'t fear tornadoes much either. I
wonder if they have anything in their building code that requires
protection from tornadoes? Most likely too many people demand
their freedom from intrusive building codes.
I saw that some people were praying to God outside their destroyed
church.
Were they praying for a miracle or because there had been a miracle?
Well, I suppose they could have been thanking God for finally
showing very clearly that he doesn\'t give a stuff about them, so
that in future they can stop with the whole praying thing, and use
their time for something they actually like doing.
But probably not.
It is easy to imagine other possibilities, e.g. they were
thanking God for destroying the evil heretics from another
denomination. Ditto Godless people in general.
Gee, you atheist folks are so compassionate. How about, they love God
and love their church, and are praying for His aid and comfort in
their distress?
Er - no. I think such any behaviour is reprehensible.
I\'m just reporting what some religious people actually do
to other groups, in the name of their religion. For examples,
see history books and newspapers.
Are you proposing to take responsibility for all the evil done by
atheists? Such as the Holocaust, Holodomor, Great Leap Forward, Uighur
genocide....
Because, being such a rational guy, you\'d obviously see the logic of
your position.
But an omnipotent God could have prevented them being in
distress in the first place.
And a merciful God is very patient even with His enemies.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
Tom Gardner wrote:
Er - no. I think such any behaviour is reprehensible.
I\'m just reporting what some religious people actually do
to other groups, in the name of their religion. For examples,
see history books and newspapers.
Are you proposing to take responsibility for all the evil done by
atheists? Such as the Holocaust, Holodomor, Great Leap Forward, Uighur
genocide....
Because, being such a rational guy, you\'d obviously see the logic of
your position.
On Wed, 15 Dec 2021 15:50:43 -0500, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamM...@electrooptical.net> wrote:
Tom Gardner wrote:
On 15/12/21 13:55, Phil Hobbs wrote:
Tom Gardner wrote:
On 15/12/21 11:11, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 15-Dec-21 9:04 pm, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 15/12/21 07:42, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 12-Dec-21 1:01 am, Rick C wrote:
But an omnipotent God could have prevented them being in
distress in the first place.
And a merciful God is very patient even with His enemies.
As a practical matter, Christians are more peaceful, more productive, and more charitable than nons.
On 15/12/2021 21:50, Phil Hobbs wrote:
Tom Gardner wrote:
Er - no. I think such any behaviour is reprehensible.
I\'m just reporting what some religious people actually do
to other groups, in the name of their religion. For examples,
see history books and newspapers.
Are you proposing to take responsibility for all the evil done by
atheists? Such as the Holocaust, Holodomor, Great Leap Forward, Uighur
genocide....
Because, being such a rational guy, you\'d obviously see the logic of
your position.
Hitler referred to himself as a Christian (for the most part), as did
most Nazis. Regardless, /people/ are responsible for the evil acts they
commit, not religions, gods or lack thereof. Religion is merely a
popular excuse for many acts of evil, and it is a tool used by evil
people to control others. It is entirely clear that neither religion
nor belief in any god or other supernatural idea, nor lack of such
beliefs, gives any guarantees of someone being either a good or a bad
person.
No one is suggesting that religious people, simply by following a
particular religion, are directly responsible for any kind of evil act.
Whatever evil they do themselves, support or condone, is a matter for
the individual.
On Wed, 15 Dec 2021 15:50:43 -0500, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:
Tom Gardner wrote:
On 15/12/21 13:55, Phil Hobbs wrote:
Tom Gardner wrote:
On 15/12/21 11:11, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 15-Dec-21 9:04 pm, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 15/12/21 07:42, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 12-Dec-21 1:01 am, Rick C wrote:
50 dead and it may rise to 100. Yet KY is seeing 60 deaths every
day from Covid and the count is on the rise again. KY only has a
53% fully vaccinated rate. I suppose they don\'t fear a deadly
disease.
So it stands to reason they don\'t fear tornadoes much either. I
wonder if they have anything in their building code that requires
protection from tornadoes? Most likely too many people demand
their freedom from intrusive building codes.
I saw that some people were praying to God outside their destroyed
church.
Were they praying for a miracle or because there had been a miracle?
Well, I suppose they could have been thanking God for finally
showing very clearly that he doesn\'t give a stuff about them, so
that in future they can stop with the whole praying thing, and use
their time for something they actually like doing.
But probably not.
It is easy to imagine other possibilities, e.g. they were
thanking God for destroying the evil heretics from another
denomination. Ditto Godless people in general.
Gee, you atheist folks are so compassionate. How about, they love God
and love their church, and are praying for His aid and comfort in
their distress?
Er - no. I think such any behaviour is reprehensible.
I\'m just reporting what some religious people actually do
to other groups, in the name of their religion. For examples,
see history books and newspapers.
Are you proposing to take responsibility for all the evil done by
atheists? Such as the Holocaust, Holodomor, Great Leap Forward, Uighur
genocide....
Because, being such a rational guy, you\'d obviously see the logic of
your position.
But an omnipotent God could have prevented them being in
distress in the first place.
And a merciful God is very patient even with His enemies.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
As a practical matter, Christians are more peaceful, more productive,
and more charitable than nons.
On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 9:55:49 AM UTC-4, Phil Hobbs wrote:
Tom Gardner wrote:
On 15/12/21 11:11, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 15-Dec-21 9:04 pm, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 15/12/21 07:42, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 12-Dec-21 1:01 am, Rick C wrote:
50 dead and it may rise to 100. Yet KY is seeing 60 deaths every
day from Covid and the count is on the rise again. KY only has a
53% fully vaccinated rate. I suppose they don\'t fear a deadly
disease.
So it stands to reason they don\'t fear tornadoes much either. I
wonder if they have anything in their building code that requires
protection from tornadoes? Most likely too many people demand
their freedom from intrusive building codes.
I saw that some people were praying to God outside their destroyed
church.
Were they praying for a miracle or because there had been a miracle?
Well, I suppose they could have been thanking God for finally showing
very clearly that he doesn\'t give a stuff about them, so that in
future they can stop with the whole praying thing, and use their time
for something they actually like doing.
But probably not.
It is easy to imagine other possibilities, e.g. they were
thanking God for destroying the evil heretics from another
denomination. Ditto Godless people in general.
Gee, you atheist folks are so compassionate. How about, they love God
and love their church, and are praying for His aid and comfort in their
distress?
Hmmm... Seems like you don\'t understand that it was God who created that distress, no? Or was it the devil? Or maybe Flip Wilson?
Just like when watching a lot of sci-fi movies, to believe in God requires a very large dose of \"willing suspension of disbelief\". That is to say, you must turn off scientific thought. The two are irrevocably incompatible.
Combine that with the total lack of unequivocal evidence of the existence of God and it is much easier to suspend belief in god.
--
Rick C.
-+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
-+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209