4069 as an amplifier spice model?

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Malcolm Reeves

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Hi,

Anyone know of a spice model for a 4069 buffer being used as an
amplifier? If there is one in pspice I can't find it.

Or come to that, info on what the params for a 4069 used as an
amplifier are.

TIA

--

Malcolm

Malcolm Reeves BSc CEng MIEE MIRSE, Full Circuit Ltd, Chippenham, UK
(mreeves@fullcircuit.com, mreeves@fullcircuit.co.uk or mreeves@iee.org).
Design Service for Analogue/Digital H/W & S/W Railway Signalling and Power
electronics. More details plus freeware, Win95/98 DUN and Pspice tips, see:

http://www.fullcircuit.com or http://www.fullcircuit.co.uk

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On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 22:10:48 +0000, Malcolm Reeves
<mreeves@fullcircuit.com> wrote:

Hi,

Anyone know of a spice model for a 4069 buffer being used as an
amplifier? If there is one in pspice I can't find it.

Or come to that, info on what the params for a 4069 used as an
amplifier are.

TIA
Click to expand...
I have a device-level model for 74HCU04, but not for 4069.

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"Malcolm Reeves" <mreeves@fullcircuit.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:qsrjs0tdjk674jsr3228p85ok5olfqmn9i@4ax.com...
Hi,

Anyone know of a spice model for a 4069 buffer being used as an
amplifier? If there is one in pspice I can't find it.

Or come to that, info on what the params for a 4069 used as an
amplifier are.
Click to expand...
Hello Malcolm,
there has been a similar question in sci.electronics.design
in November(11/18/2004). The original postings are attached.

..SUBCKT 4069UB 6 1 4
*Connections e s Vcc
M2 1 6 0 0 CD4069BN
M3 1 6 4 4 CD4069BP
..MODEL CD4069BN NMOS (LEVEL=1 VTO=2.1 KP=2.9M GAMMA=3.97U
+ PHI=.75 LAMBDA=1.87M RD=20.2 RS=184.1 IS=31.2F PB=.8 MJ=.46
+ CBD=47.6P CBS=57.2P CGSO=70.2N CGDO=58.5N CGBO=96.3N)
..MODEL CD4069BP PMOS (LEVEL=1 VTO=-2.9 KP=2M GAMMA=3.97U
+ PHI=.75 LAMBDA=1.87M RD=28.2 RS=145.2 IS=31.2F PB=.8 MJ=.46
+ CBD=47.6P CBS=57.2P CGSO=70.2N CGDO=58.5N CGBO=96.3N)
..ENDS 4069UB

Best Rgeards,
Helmut



--- Original thread from sci.electronics.design ---

"N. Thornton" <bigcat@meeow.co.uk> wrote in message
news:a7076635.0411181739.535b62a4@posting.google.com...
"Emoneg" <and@nothere.net> wrote in message
news:<ix2nd.53$6q3.41@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>...

*********
.SUBCKT 4069UB 6 1 4
*Connections e s Vcc
M2 1 6 0 0 CD4069BN
M3 1 6 4 4 CD4069BP
.MODEL CD4069BN NMOS (LEVEL=1 VTO=2.1 KP=2.9M GAMMA=3.97U
+ PHI=.75 LAMBDA=1.87M RD=20.2 RS=184.1 IS=31.2F PB=.8 MJ=.46
+ CBD=47.6P CBS=57.2P CGSO=70.2N CGDO=58.5N CGBO=96.3N)
.MODEL CD4069BP PMOS (LEVEL=1 VTO=-2.9 KP=2M GAMMA=3.97U
+ PHI=.75 LAMBDA=1.87M RD=28.2 RS=145.2 IS=31.2F PB=.8 MJ=.46
+ CBD=47.6P CBS=57.2P CGSO=70.2N CGDO=58.5N CGBO=96.3N)
.ENDS 4069UB
*$
*
*************

In LTSPICE

Version 4
SHEET 1 1240 680
WIRE 144 160 96 160
WIRE 96 160 96 288
WIRE 96 432 144 432
WIRE 192 352 192 288
WIRE 192 144 192 112
WIRE 192 448 192 480
WIRE 96 288 48 288
WIRE 96 288 96 432
WIRE 192 288 240 288
WIRE 192 288 192 240
FLAG 192 112 VDD
IOPIN 192 112 In
FLAG 192 480 VDD
IOPIN 192 480 In
FLAG 48 288 IN
IOPIN 48 288 In
FLAG 240 288 OUT
IOPIN 240 288 Out
SYMBOL nmos 144 352 R0
WINDOW 0 57 39 Left 0
WINDOW 3 58 60 Left 0
SYMATTR InstName M2
SYMATTR Value CD4069BN
SYMBOL pmos 144 240 M180
WINDOW 0 60 59 Left 0
WINDOW 3 59 34 Left 0
SYMATTR InstName M1
SYMATTR Value CD4069BP
TEXT 336 232 Left 0 !.MODEL CD4069BN NMOS (LEVEL=1 VTO=2.1 KP=2.9M
GAMMA=3.97U\n+ PHI=.75 LAMBDA=1.87M RD=20.2 RS=184.1 IS=31.2F PB=.8
MJ=.46\n+ CBD=47.6P CBS=57.2P CGSO=70.2N CGDO=58.5N CGBO=96.3N)\n.MODEL
CD4069BP PMOS (LEVEL=1 VTO=-2.9 KP=2M GAMMA=3.97U\n+ PHI=.75
LAMBDA=1.87M
RD=28.2 RS=145.2 IS=31.2F PB=.8 MJ=.46\n+ CBD=47.6P CBS=57.2P CGSO=70.2N
CGDO=58.5N CGBO=96.3N)


OK, it's a bit of a hack but someone else might tidy it up.

DNA

Aha! Looks promising... now what do I do with that bit of text to make
a component model with it? I'm putting the circuit in using circuit
piccies, not using a netlist.

Thanks, NT
Click to expand...
You copy the text into notepad and then save the file with a .asc extension.
LTspice will then open it up as a schematic.

DNA
 
Hi Helmut,

Thanks. I'd missed that thread.

Malcolm

On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 01:52:46 +0100, "Helmut Sennewald"
<helmutsennewald@t-online.de> wrote:

"Malcolm Reeves" <mreeves@fullcircuit.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:qsrjs0tdjk674jsr3228p85ok5olfqmn9i@4ax.com...
Hi,

Anyone know of a spice model for a 4069 buffer being used as an
amplifier? If there is one in pspice I can't find it.

Or come to that, info on what the params for a 4069 used as an
amplifier are.


Hello Malcolm,
there has been a similar question in sci.electronics.design
in November(11/18/2004). The original postings are attached.

.SUBCKT 4069UB 6 1 4
*Connections e s Vcc
M2 1 6 0 0 CD4069BN
M3 1 6 4 4 CD4069BP
.MODEL CD4069BN NMOS (LEVEL=1 VTO=2.1 KP=2.9M GAMMA=3.97U
+ PHI=.75 LAMBDA=1.87M RD=20.2 RS=184.1 IS=31.2F PB=.8 MJ=.46
+ CBD=47.6P CBS=57.2P CGSO=70.2N CGDO=58.5N CGBO=96.3N)
.MODEL CD4069BP PMOS (LEVEL=1 VTO=-2.9 KP=2M GAMMA=3.97U
+ PHI=.75 LAMBDA=1.87M RD=28.2 RS=145.2 IS=31.2F PB=.8 MJ=.46
+ CBD=47.6P CBS=57.2P CGSO=70.2N CGDO=58.5N CGBO=96.3N)
.ENDS 4069UB

Best Rgeards,
Helmut



--- Original thread from sci.electronics.design ---

"N. Thornton" <bigcat@meeow.co.uk> wrote in message
news:a7076635.0411181739.535b62a4@posting.google.com...
"Emoneg" <and@nothere.net> wrote in message
news:<ix2nd.53$6q3.41@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>...

*********
.SUBCKT 4069UB 6 1 4
*Connections e s Vcc
M2 1 6 0 0 CD4069BN
M3 1 6 4 4 CD4069BP
.MODEL CD4069BN NMOS (LEVEL=1 VTO=2.1 KP=2.9M GAMMA=3.97U
+ PHI=.75 LAMBDA=1.87M RD=20.2 RS=184.1 IS=31.2F PB=.8 MJ=.46
+ CBD=47.6P CBS=57.2P CGSO=70.2N CGDO=58.5N CGBO=96.3N)
.MODEL CD4069BP PMOS (LEVEL=1 VTO=-2.9 KP=2M GAMMA=3.97U
+ PHI=.75 LAMBDA=1.87M RD=28.2 RS=145.2 IS=31.2F PB=.8 MJ=.46
+ CBD=47.6P CBS=57.2P CGSO=70.2N CGDO=58.5N CGBO=96.3N)
.ENDS 4069UB
*$
*
*************

In LTSPICE

Version 4
SHEET 1 1240 680
WIRE 144 160 96 160
WIRE 96 160 96 288
WIRE 96 432 144 432
WIRE 192 352 192 288
WIRE 192 144 192 112
WIRE 192 448 192 480
WIRE 96 288 48 288
WIRE 96 288 96 432
WIRE 192 288 240 288
WIRE 192 288 192 240
FLAG 192 112 VDD
IOPIN 192 112 In
FLAG 192 480 VDD
IOPIN 192 480 In
FLAG 48 288 IN
IOPIN 48 288 In
FLAG 240 288 OUT
IOPIN 240 288 Out
SYMBOL nmos 144 352 R0
WINDOW 0 57 39 Left 0
WINDOW 3 58 60 Left 0
SYMATTR InstName M2
SYMATTR Value CD4069BN
SYMBOL pmos 144 240 M180
WINDOW 0 60 59 Left 0
WINDOW 3 59 34 Left 0
SYMATTR InstName M1
SYMATTR Value CD4069BP
TEXT 336 232 Left 0 !.MODEL CD4069BN NMOS (LEVEL=1 VTO=2.1 KP=2.9M
GAMMA=3.97U\n+ PHI=.75 LAMBDA=1.87M RD=20.2 RS=184.1 IS=31.2F PB=.8
MJ=.46\n+ CBD=47.6P CBS=57.2P CGSO=70.2N CGDO=58.5N CGBO=96.3N)\n.MODEL
CD4069BP PMOS (LEVEL=1 VTO=-2.9 KP=2M GAMMA=3.97U\n+ PHI=.75
LAMBDA=1.87M
RD=28.2 RS=145.2 IS=31.2F PB=.8 MJ=.46\n+ CBD=47.6P CBS=57.2P CGSO=70.2N
CGDO=58.5N CGBO=96.3N)


OK, it's a bit of a hack but someone else might tidy it up.

DNA

Aha! Looks promising... now what do I do with that bit of text to make
a component model with it? I'm putting the circuit in using circuit
piccies, not using a netlist.

Thanks, NT

You copy the text into notepad and then save the file with a .asc extension.
LTspice will then open it up as a schematic.

DNA
Click to expand...
--

Malcolm

Malcolm Reeves BSc CEng MIEE MIRSE, Full Circuit Ltd, Chippenham, UK
(mreeves@fullcircuit.com, mreeves@fullcircuit.co.uk or mreeves@iee.org).
Design Service for Analogue/Digital H/W & S/W Railway Signalling and Power
electronics. More details plus freeware, Win95/98 DUN and Pspice tips, see:

http://www.fullcircuit.com or http://www.fullcircuit.co.uk

NEW - www.CharteredConsultant.co.uk - The Consultant A-List
 
Hi Jim,

Thanks for the offer. I'll bear it in mind if I ever need the HC04
but for now the 4069 would suit better as the supply voltage range is
more.

Malcolm


On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:34:32 -0700, Jim Thompson
<thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 22:10:48 +0000, Malcolm Reeves
mreeves@fullcircuit.com> wrote:

Hi,

Anyone know of a spice model for a 4069 buffer being used as an
amplifier? If there is one in pspice I can't find it.

Or come to that, info on what the params for a 4069 used as an
amplifier are.

TIA

I have a device-level model for 74HCU04, but not for 4069.

...Jim Thompson
Click to expand...
--

Malcolm

Malcolm Reeves BSc CEng MIEE MIRSE, Full Circuit Ltd, Chippenham, UK
(mreeves@fullcircuit.com, mreeves@fullcircuit.co.uk or mreeves@iee.org).
Design Service for Analogue/Digital H/W & S/W Railway Signalling and Power
electronics. More details plus freeware, Win95/98 DUN and Pspice tips, see:

http://www.fullcircuit.com or http://www.fullcircuit.co.uk

NEW - www.CharteredConsultant.co.uk - The Consultant A-List
 
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