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Google like the other chap said.Where can I find 24v upto 40Amp H bridge DC motor driver schematics?
Heh. Stephen King just wrapped up a seven-book series with a politeJohn Crighton wrote...
On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 03:13:24 +1000, <40Amp> wrote:
Where can I find 24v upto 40Amp H bridge DC motor driver schematics?
Here is one
http://www.pmb.co.nz/pub/index.htm
go to the bottom of the page.
http://www.pmb.co.nz/downloads/dgc_old_scp.pdf
That one is overly complex with poor performance, and has a
fatal flaw to boot. Not recommended.
John Miles wrote...
Heh. Stephen King just wrapped up a seven-book series with a polite
request to readers to refrain from looking up his address and driving
over for a visit to debate the merits of the ending.
For your own peace of mind, this habit you have of citing "bad"
circuits without revealing their flaws may require a similar notice
in the preface to AoE 3rd ed.
Nah, folks are more than welcome to come visit me anytime at my lab
and debate circuits, lift a brew, or whatever! But as for Stephen
King, after stringing along as a paying customer on his online novel
experiment, one delayed chapter at a time, and getting jilted unable
to read the ending, I realize he has a very serious crybaby problem.
Was Stephen King the one who did "Pet Sematery?" Or was that Spielberg?
John Crighton wrote...
On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 03:13:24 +1000, <40Amp> wrote:
Where can I find 24v upto 40Amp H bridge DC motor driver schematics?
Here is one
http://www.pmb.co.nz/pub/index.htm
go to the bottom of the page.
http://www.pmb.co.nz/downloads/dgc_old_scp.pdf
That one is overly complex with poor performance, and has a
fatal flaw to boot. Not recommended.
--
Thanks,
- Win
I'm not the original poster that said to be a flaw and never came backOn 29 Sep 2004 04:34:50 -0700, Winfield Hill
Winfield_member@newsguy.com> wrote:
John Crighton wrote...
On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 03:13:24 +1000, <40Amp> wrote:
Where can I find 24v upto 40Amp H bridge DC motor driver schematics?
Here is one
http://www.pmb.co.nz/pub/index.htm
go to the bottom of the page.
http://www.pmb.co.nz/downloads/dgc_old_scp.pdf
That one is overly complex with poor performance, and has a
fatal flaw to boot. Not recommended.
--
Thanks,
- Win
OK, I'll bite! I can't see the fatal flaw.
Why is this circuit a poor performer?
A pal of mine up in Newcastle, is gathering
parts to build this particular motor controller,
so if there is anything flawed, we would like
to know about it.
Is it the choice of parts that you don't like?
Remember, here in Australia and NZ the
parts available to choose from are limited,
compared to the vast array of components
available at low prices in the USA.
Getting back to that particular circuit, I thought
the designer in New Zealand hand done a
good job. The Fet driver circuit looks good,
there is a safety interlock and over current feature.
What don't you like about this controller?
Regards,
John Crighton
Sydney
The fonts used in that schematic made my eyes go funny, and double andOn 29 Sep 2004 04:34:50 -0700, Winfield Hill
Winfield_member@newsguy.com> wrote:
John Crighton wrote...
On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 03:13:24 +1000, <40Amp> wrote:
Where can I find 24v upto 40Amp H bridge DC motor driver schematics?
Here is one
http://www.pmb.co.nz/pub/index.htm
go to the bottom of the page.
http://www.pmb.co.nz/downloads/dgc_old_scp.pdf
That one is overly complex with poor performance, and has a
fatal flaw to boot. Not recommended.
--
Thanks,
- Win
OK, I'll bite! I can't see the fatal flaw.
Why is this circuit a poor performer?
A pal of mine up in Newcastle, is gathering
parts to build this particular motor controller,
so if there is anything flawed, we would like
to know about it.
Is it the choice of parts that you don't like?
Remember, here in Australia and NZ the
parts available to choose from are limited,
compared to the vast array of components
available at low prices in the USA.
Getting back to that particular circuit, I thought
the designer in New Zealand hand done a
good job. The Fet driver circuit looks good,
there is a safety interlock and over current feature.
What don't you like about this controller?
Regards,
John Crighton
Sydney
If thats an open invitation i might be interested in taking you up on exeptJohn Miles wrote...
Heh. Stephen King just wrapped up a seven-book series with a polite
request to readers to refrain from looking up his address and driving
over for a visit to debate the merits of the ending.
For your own peace of mind, this habit you have of citing "bad"
circuits without revealing their flaws may require a similar notice
in the preface to AoE 3rd ed.
Nah, folks are more than welcome to come visit me anytime at my lab
and debate circuits, lift a brew, or whatever! But as for Stephen
King, after stringing along as a paying customer on his online novel
experiment, one delayed chapter at a time, and getting jilted unable
to read the ending, I realize he has a very serious crybaby problem.
--
Thanks,
- Win
(email: use hill_at_rowland-dotties-org for now)
Someone else mentioned the slow diodes in the bridge and the high sidecolin wrote...
Further looking at it revealed ...
There's more, much more.
I'm able to spot a few things I don't like in this one as well, at a40Amp wrote:
Where can I find 24v upto 40Amp H bridge DC motor driver schematics?
Harris and IR probably both do drivers and app notes.
Graham
colin wrote...
Further looking at it revealed ...
There's more, much more.
--
Thanks,
- Win
(email: use hill_at_rowland-dotties-org for now)
Have you tried it with the listed fixes fixed?On 30 Sep 2004 09:25:24 -0700, Winfield Hill
Winfield_member@newsguy.com> wrote:
colin wrote...
Further looking at it revealed ...
There's more, much more.
--
Thanks,
- Win
(email: use hill_at_rowland-dotties-org for now)
Colin and Ricardo have pointed out a few flaws,
reversed electrolytic capacitor which is a typo,
slow and puny protection diodes. Right Oh.
No large electrolytic capacitor on the controller
board. Right Oh.
Someone criticised parallel power fets.
Is that so bad?
The over current protection is not latched off
permanently until overload is removed.
OK not so good.
I still don't see the fatal flaw to cause it to go bang.
The fatal flaw is your bang-bang on/reverse cycle.My friend is intending to control an auto pilot motor
in a small fishing boat. The motor will run for a few
seconds in one direction, stop for a second or so
and run for a second or more in the other direction.
No speed control but later on my friend will add a
soft start circuit to produce narrow pulses around
300/400 Hz, gradually increasing in width to full on,
over a period of a second or so to prevent the
steering gear being knocked around too much
by the motor. That is just an added refinement
that would be nice but not essential at this
stage because the main concern now is
The fatal flaw that we can't see!
I think the main critiscism is that although itl probably work in the normalOn Sunday 03 October 2004 12:58 am, John Crighton did deign to grace us
with
the following:
On 30 Sep 2004 09:25:24 -0700, Winfield Hill
Winfield_member@newsguy.com> wrote:
colin wrote...
Further looking at it revealed ...
There's more, much more.
--
Thanks,
- Win
(email: use hill_at_rowland-dotties-org for now)
Colin and Ricardo have pointed out a few flaws,
reversed electrolytic capacitor which is a typo,
slow and puny protection diodes. Right Oh.
No large electrolytic capacitor on the controller
board. Right Oh.
Someone criticised parallel power fets.
Is that so bad?
The over current protection is not latched off
permanently until overload is removed.
OK not so good.
I still don't see the fatal flaw to cause it to go bang.
Have you tried it with the listed fixes fixed?
My friend is intending to control an auto pilot motor
in a small fishing boat. The motor will run for a few
seconds in one direction, stop for a second or so
and run for a second or more in the other direction.
No speed control but later on my friend will add a
soft start circuit to produce narrow pulses around
300/400 Hz, gradually increasing in width to full on,
over a period of a second or so to prevent the
steering gear being knocked around too much
by the motor. That is just an added refinement
that would be nice but not essential at this
stage because the main concern now is
The fatal flaw that we can't see!
The fatal flaw is your bang-bang on/reverse cycle.
Since it's only software, do the softstart and deadtime
now, so you quit breaking stuff, and implement the other
suggestions before you fire it up some more.
Good Luck!
Rich
Looks to me like the two H-Bridges are not independantly controlled.I think the bad circuits idea in AoE are a good idea and not having an
explanation gets ones mind working till the flaw is found, and also maybe
gives you an idea of how good you are if you can find each ones flaw without
any help.
Colin =^.^=
As i understood it, the output of the two bridges are suposed to beAt about the time of 9/30/2004 6:24 AM, colin stated the following:
I think the bad circuits idea in AoE are a good idea and not having an
explanation gets ones mind working till the flaw is found, and also
maybe
gives you an idea of how good you are if you can find each ones flaw
without
any help.
Colin =^.^=
Looks to me like the two H-Bridges are not independantly controlled.
Two motors at the same speed is a straight line. I could think of a
couple of applications for this, but nothing really practical.
--
Daniel Rudy