150W Stirling Engine?...

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Ed Lee

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I want to try this emergency battery charger:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185836877680

150W output? Or do they mean 150W LED bulb? Perhaps 10W real output?

What\'s the benefit of twin cylinders vs. the single cylinder version?
 
Ed Lee <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote:

I want to try this emergency battery charger:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185836877680

150W output? Or do they mean 150W LED bulb? Perhaps 10W real output?

What\'s the benefit of twin cylinders vs. the single cylinder version?

Better balance = less vibration and noise. (In effect it is 2-stroke,
so the two pistons can be 180-degrees out of phase and so can the
displacers).

See \"Philips Technical Review\" for the full story of the development of
their version of a Stirling engine that could power a lorry. They also
ran them in reverse to make air-liquefying machines.


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On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 5:26:29 AM UTC-7, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote:

I want to try this emergency battery charger:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185836877680

150W output? Or do they mean 150W LED bulb? Perhaps 10W real output?

What\'s the benefit of twin cylinders vs. the single cylinder version?
Better balance = less vibration and noise. (In effect it is 2-stroke,
so the two pistons can be 180-degrees out of phase and so can the
displacers).

Don\'t care about vibration and noise for emergency, or running it when i am not around.

See \"Philips Technical Review\" for the full story of the development of
their version of a Stirling engine that could power a lorry. They also
ran them in reverse to make air-liquefying machines.

Links? Actually, i am going to feed it with vaporizing liquid (70% sanitizer). I got a few gallons to burn/dispose, which were obtained when it was HOT item back in the Covid days.
 
On 8/04/2023 10:37 pm, Ed Lee wrote:
On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 5:26:29 AM UTC-7, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote:

I want to try this emergency battery charger:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185836877680

150W output? Or do they mean 150W LED bulb? Perhaps 10W real output?

What\'s the benefit of twin cylinders vs. the single cylinder version?
Better balance = less vibration and noise. (In effect it is 2-stroke,
so the two pistons can be 180-degrees out of phase and so can the
displacers).

Don\'t care about vibration and noise for emergency, or running it when i am not around.

See \"Philips Technical Review\" for the full story of the development of
their version of a Stirling engine that could power a lorry. They also
ran them in reverse to make air-liquefying machines.

Links? Actually, i am going to feed it with vaporizing liquid (70% sanitizer). I got a few gallons to burn/dispose, which were obtained when it was HOT item back in the Covid days.

https://www.pearl-hifi.com/06_Lit_Archive/02_PEARL_Arch/Vol_16/Sec_53/Philips_Tech_Review/PTechReview-20-1958_59-245.pdf
 
On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 7:11:40 AM UTC-7, Chris Jones wrote:
On 8/04/2023 10:37 pm, Ed Lee wrote:
On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 5:26:29 AM UTC-7, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote:

I want to try this emergency battery charger:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185836877680

150W output? Or do they mean 150W LED bulb? Perhaps 10W real output?

What\'s the benefit of twin cylinders vs. the single cylinder version?
Better balance = less vibration and noise. (In effect it is 2-stroke,
so the two pistons can be 180-degrees out of phase and so can the
displacers).

Don\'t care about vibration and noise for emergency, or running it when i am not around.

See \"Philips Technical Review\" for the full story of the development of
their version of a Stirling engine that could power a lorry. They also
ran them in reverse to make air-liquefying machines.

Links? Actually, i am going to feed it with vaporizing liquid (70% sanitizer). I got a few gallons to burn/dispose, which were obtained when it was HOT item back in the Covid days.
https://www.pearl-hifi.com/06_Lit_Archive/02_PEARL_Arch/Vol_16/Sec_53/Philips_Tech_Review/PTechReview-20-1958_59-245.pdf

Thanks.

I ordered this https://www.ebay.com/itm/203042859494 , which has integrated generator and look more solid in one piece. Just wondering how many Watts can i get out of a gallon of alcohol.

Officer: i am not drinking in the car, it\'s for the car.
 
lørdag den 8. april 2023 kl. 16.35.49 UTC+2 skrev Ed Lee:
On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 7:11:40 AM UTC-7, Chris Jones wrote:
On 8/04/2023 10:37 pm, Ed Lee wrote:
On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 5:26:29 AM UTC-7, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote:

I want to try this emergency battery charger:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185836877680

150W output? Or do they mean 150W LED bulb? Perhaps 10W real output?

What\'s the benefit of twin cylinders vs. the single cylinder version?
Better balance = less vibration and noise. (In effect it is 2-stroke,
so the two pistons can be 180-degrees out of phase and so can the
displacers).

Don\'t care about vibration and noise for emergency, or running it when i am not around.

See \"Philips Technical Review\" for the full story of the development of
their version of a Stirling engine that could power a lorry. They also
ran them in reverse to make air-liquefying machines.

Links? Actually, i am going to feed it with vaporizing liquid (70% sanitizer). I got a few gallons to burn/dispose, which were obtained when it was HOT item back in the Covid days.
https://www.pearl-hifi.com/06_Lit_Archive/02_PEARL_Arch/Vol_16/Sec_53/Philips_Tech_Review/PTechReview-20-1958_59-245.pdf
Thanks.

I ordered this https://www.ebay.com/itm/203042859494 , which has integrated generator and look more solid in one piece. Just wondering how many Watts can i get out of a gallon of alcohol.

milliwatts until it wears out and falls apart, it is a toy to show how a sterling engine works, not make any kind of usable power
 
On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 8:01:10 AM UTC-7, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
lørdag den 8. april 2023 kl. 16.35.49 UTC+2 skrev Ed Lee:
On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 7:11:40 AM UTC-7, Chris Jones wrote:
On 8/04/2023 10:37 pm, Ed Lee wrote:
On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 5:26:29 AM UTC-7, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote:

I want to try this emergency battery charger:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185836877680

150W output? Or do they mean 150W LED bulb? Perhaps 10W real output?

What\'s the benefit of twin cylinders vs. the single cylinder version?
Better balance = less vibration and noise. (In effect it is 2-stroke,
so the two pistons can be 180-degrees out of phase and so can the
displacers).

Don\'t care about vibration and noise for emergency, or running it when i am not around.

See \"Philips Technical Review\" for the full story of the development of
their version of a Stirling engine that could power a lorry. They also
ran them in reverse to make air-liquefying machines.

Links? Actually, i am going to feed it with vaporizing liquid (70% sanitizer). I got a few gallons to burn/dispose, which were obtained when it was HOT item back in the Covid days.
https://www.pearl-hifi.com/06_Lit_Archive/02_PEARL_Arch/Vol_16/Sec_53/Philips_Tech_Review/PTechReview-20-1958_59-245.pdf
Thanks.

I ordered this https://www.ebay.com/itm/203042859494 , which has integrated generator and look more solid in one piece. Just wondering how many Watts can i get out of a gallon of alcohol.

milliwatts until it wears out and falls apart, it is a toy to show how a sterling engine works, not make any kind of usable power

Yeah, most of them don\'t spec the output, except for my first link. If it\'s 150W LED, then it\'s probably 20W output. 5W to 10W for this would be fine. I just need a few seconds to jump start the 100W power relay, after charging for a few minutes.
 
lørdag den 8. april 2023 kl. 17.11.10 UTC+2 skrev Ed Lee:
On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 8:01:10 AM UTC-7, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
lørdag den 8. april 2023 kl. 16.35.49 UTC+2 skrev Ed Lee:
On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 7:11:40 AM UTC-7, Chris Jones wrote:
On 8/04/2023 10:37 pm, Ed Lee wrote:
On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 5:26:29 AM UTC-7, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote:

I want to try this emergency battery charger:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185836877680

150W output? Or do they mean 150W LED bulb? Perhaps 10W real output?

What\'s the benefit of twin cylinders vs. the single cylinder version?
Better balance = less vibration and noise. (In effect it is 2-stroke,
so the two pistons can be 180-degrees out of phase and so can the
displacers).

Don\'t care about vibration and noise for emergency, or running it when i am not around.

See \"Philips Technical Review\" for the full story of the development of
their version of a Stirling engine that could power a lorry. They also
ran them in reverse to make air-liquefying machines.

Links? Actually, i am going to feed it with vaporizing liquid (70% sanitizer). I got a few gallons to burn/dispose, which were obtained when it was HOT item back in the Covid days.
https://www.pearl-hifi.com/06_Lit_Archive/02_PEARL_Arch/Vol_16/Sec_53/Philips_Tech_Review/PTechReview-20-1958_59-245.pdf
Thanks.

I ordered this https://www.ebay.com/itm/203042859494 , which has integrated generator and look more solid in one piece. Just wondering how many Watts can i get out of a gallon of alcohol.

milliwatts until it wears out and falls apart, it is a toy to show how a sterling engine works, not make any kind of usable power
Yeah, most of them don\'t spec the output, except for my first link. If it\'s 150W LED, then it\'s probably 20W output. 5W to 10W for this would be fine. I just need a few seconds to jump start the 100W power relay, after charging for a few minutes.

buy a box of AA batteries
 
On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 8:23:49 AM UTC-7, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
lørdag den 8. april 2023 kl. 17.11.10 UTC+2 skrev Ed Lee:
On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 8:01:10 AM UTC-7, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
lørdag den 8. april 2023 kl. 16.35.49 UTC+2 skrev Ed Lee:
On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 7:11:40 AM UTC-7, Chris Jones wrote:
On 8/04/2023 10:37 pm, Ed Lee wrote:
On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 5:26:29 AM UTC-7, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote:

I want to try this emergency battery charger:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185836877680

150W output? Or do they mean 150W LED bulb? Perhaps 10W real output?

What\'s the benefit of twin cylinders vs. the single cylinder version?
Better balance = less vibration and noise. (In effect it is 2-stroke,
so the two pistons can be 180-degrees out of phase and so can the
displacers).

Don\'t care about vibration and noise for emergency, or running it when i am not around.

See \"Philips Technical Review\" for the full story of the development of
their version of a Stirling engine that could power a lorry. They also
ran them in reverse to make air-liquefying machines.

Links? Actually, i am going to feed it with vaporizing liquid (70% sanitizer). I got a few gallons to burn/dispose, which were obtained when it was HOT item back in the Covid days.
https://www.pearl-hifi.com/06_Lit_Archive/02_PEARL_Arch/Vol_16/Sec_53/Philips_Tech_Review/PTechReview-20-1958_59-245.pdf
Thanks.

I ordered this https://www.ebay.com/itm/203042859494 , which has integrated generator and look more solid in one piece. Just wondering how many Watts can i get out of a gallon of alcohol.

milliwatts until it wears out and falls apart, it is a toy to show how a sterling engine works, not make any kind of usable power
Yeah, most of them don\'t spec the output, except for my first link. If it\'s 150W LED, then it\'s probably 20W output. 5W to 10W for this would be fine. I just need a few seconds to jump start the 100W power relay, after charging for a few minutes.
buy a box of AA batteries

I got boxes of 18650s, but sometimes nowhere to charge them. The sterling engine is probably lighter and take up less space.
 
lørdag den 8. april 2023 kl. 17.28.58 UTC+2 skrev Ed Lee:
On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 8:23:49 AM UTC-7, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
lørdag den 8. april 2023 kl. 17.11.10 UTC+2 skrev Ed Lee:
On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 8:01:10 AM UTC-7, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
lørdag den 8. april 2023 kl. 16.35.49 UTC+2 skrev Ed Lee:
On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 7:11:40 AM UTC-7, Chris Jones wrote:
On 8/04/2023 10:37 pm, Ed Lee wrote:
On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 5:26:29 AM UTC-7, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote:

I want to try this emergency battery charger:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185836877680

150W output? Or do they mean 150W LED bulb? Perhaps 10W real output?

What\'s the benefit of twin cylinders vs. the single cylinder version?
Better balance = less vibration and noise. (In effect it is 2-stroke,
so the two pistons can be 180-degrees out of phase and so can the
displacers).

Don\'t care about vibration and noise for emergency, or running it when i am not around.

See \"Philips Technical Review\" for the full story of the development of
their version of a Stirling engine that could power a lorry. They also
ran them in reverse to make air-liquefying machines.

Links? Actually, i am going to feed it with vaporizing liquid (70% sanitizer). I got a few gallons to burn/dispose, which were obtained when it was HOT item back in the Covid days.
https://www.pearl-hifi.com/06_Lit_Archive/02_PEARL_Arch/Vol_16/Sec_53/Philips_Tech_Review/PTechReview-20-1958_59-245.pdf
Thanks.

I ordered this https://www.ebay.com/itm/203042859494 , which has integrated generator and look more solid in one piece. Just wondering how many Watts can i get out of a gallon of alcohol.

milliwatts until it wears out and falls apart, it is a toy to show how a sterling engine works, not make any kind of usable power
Yeah, most of them don\'t spec the output, except for my first link. If it\'s 150W LED, then it\'s probably 20W output. 5W to 10W for this would be fine. I just need a few seconds to jump start the 100W power relay, after charging for a few minutes.
buy a box of AA batteries
I got boxes of 18650s, but sometimes nowhere to charge them. The sterling engine is probably lighter and take up less space.

the sterling engine is heavier takes up more space, needs fuel making it even more heavy take up even more space , and in the end it isn\'t going to make any usable power
 
On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 8:57:15 AM UTC-7, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
lørdag den 8. april 2023 kl. 17.28.58 UTC+2 skrev Ed Lee:
On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 8:23:49 AM UTC-7, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
lørdag den 8. april 2023 kl. 17.11.10 UTC+2 skrev Ed Lee:
On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 8:01:10 AM UTC-7, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
lørdag den 8. april 2023 kl. 16.35.49 UTC+2 skrev Ed Lee:
On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 7:11:40 AM UTC-7, Chris Jones wrote:
On 8/04/2023 10:37 pm, Ed Lee wrote:
On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 5:26:29 AM UTC-7, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote:

I want to try this emergency battery charger:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185836877680

150W output? Or do they mean 150W LED bulb? Perhaps 10W real output?

What\'s the benefit of twin cylinders vs. the single cylinder version?
Better balance = less vibration and noise. (In effect it is 2-stroke,
so the two pistons can be 180-degrees out of phase and so can the
displacers).

Don\'t care about vibration and noise for emergency, or running it when i am not around.

See \"Philips Technical Review\" for the full story of the development of
their version of a Stirling engine that could power a lorry. They also
ran them in reverse to make air-liquefying machines.

Links? Actually, i am going to feed it with vaporizing liquid (70% sanitizer). I got a few gallons to burn/dispose, which were obtained when it was HOT item back in the Covid days.
https://www.pearl-hifi.com/06_Lit_Archive/02_PEARL_Arch/Vol_16/Sec_53/Philips_Tech_Review/PTechReview-20-1958_59-245.pdf
Thanks.

I ordered this https://www.ebay.com/itm/203042859494 , which has integrated generator and look more solid in one piece. Just wondering how many Watts can i get out of a gallon of alcohol.

milliwatts until it wears out and falls apart, it is a toy to show how a sterling engine works, not make any kind of usable power
Yeah, most of them don\'t spec the output, except for my first link. If it\'s 150W LED, then it\'s probably 20W output. 5W to 10W for this would be fine. I just need a few seconds to jump start the 100W power relay, after charging for a few minutes.
buy a box of AA batteries
I got boxes of 18650s, but sometimes nowhere to charge them. The sterling engine is probably lighter and take up less space.
the sterling engine is heavier takes up more space, needs fuel making it even more heavy take up even more space , and in the end it isn\'t going to make any usable power

If the concept work, i might 3D print disposable models. It might work with plastic vapor engine. I want to burn/rid of the fuel anyway, instead of dumping them in the drain.
 
lørdag den 8. april 2023 kl. 18.06.32 UTC+2 skrev Ed Lee:
On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 8:57:15 AM UTC-7, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
lørdag den 8. april 2023 kl. 17.28.58 UTC+2 skrev Ed Lee:
On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 8:23:49 AM UTC-7, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
lørdag den 8. april 2023 kl. 17.11.10 UTC+2 skrev Ed Lee:
On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 8:01:10 AM UTC-7, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
lørdag den 8. april 2023 kl. 16.35.49 UTC+2 skrev Ed Lee:
On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 7:11:40 AM UTC-7, Chris Jones wrote:
On 8/04/2023 10:37 pm, Ed Lee wrote:
On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 5:26:29 AM UTC-7, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote:

I want to try this emergency battery charger:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185836877680

150W output? Or do they mean 150W LED bulb? Perhaps 10W real output?

What\'s the benefit of twin cylinders vs. the single cylinder version?
Better balance = less vibration and noise. (In effect it is 2-stroke,
so the two pistons can be 180-degrees out of phase and so can the
displacers).

Don\'t care about vibration and noise for emergency, or running it when i am not around.

See \"Philips Technical Review\" for the full story of the development of
their version of a Stirling engine that could power a lorry. They also
ran them in reverse to make air-liquefying machines.

Links? Actually, i am going to feed it with vaporizing liquid (70% sanitizer). I got a few gallons to burn/dispose, which were obtained when it was HOT item back in the Covid days.
https://www.pearl-hifi.com/06_Lit_Archive/02_PEARL_Arch/Vol_16/Sec_53/Philips_Tech_Review/PTechReview-20-1958_59-245.pdf
Thanks.

I ordered this https://www.ebay.com/itm/203042859494 , which has integrated generator and look more solid in one piece. Just wondering how many Watts can i get out of a gallon of alcohol.

milliwatts until it wears out and falls apart, it is a toy to show how a sterling engine works, not make any kind of usable power
Yeah, most of them don\'t spec the output, except for my first link. If it\'s 150W LED, then it\'s probably 20W output. 5W to 10W for this would be fine. I just need a few seconds to jump start the 100W power relay, after charging for a few minutes.
buy a box of AA batteries
I got boxes of 18650s, but sometimes nowhere to charge them. The sterling engine is probably lighter and take up less space.
the sterling engine is heavier takes up more space, needs fuel making it even more heavy take up even more space , and in the end it isn\'t going to make any usable power
If the concept work, i might 3D print disposable models. It might work with plastic vapor engine. I want to burn/rid of the fuel anyway, instead of dumping them in the drain.

I\'m sure even Rube Goldberg would find it too silly
 
On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 9:36:35 AM UTC-7, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
lørdag den 8. april 2023 kl. 18.06.32 UTC+2 skrev Ed Lee:
On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 8:57:15 AM UTC-7, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
lørdag den 8. april 2023 kl. 17.28.58 UTC+2 skrev Ed Lee:
On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 8:23:49 AM UTC-7, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
lørdag den 8. april 2023 kl. 17.11.10 UTC+2 skrev Ed Lee:
On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 8:01:10 AM UTC-7, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
lørdag den 8. april 2023 kl. 16.35.49 UTC+2 skrev Ed Lee:
On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 7:11:40 AM UTC-7, Chris Jones wrote:
On 8/04/2023 10:37 pm, Ed Lee wrote:
On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 5:26:29 AM UTC-7, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote:

I want to try this emergency battery charger:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185836877680

150W output? Or do they mean 150W LED bulb? Perhaps 10W real output?

What\'s the benefit of twin cylinders vs. the single cylinder version?
Better balance = less vibration and noise. (In effect it is 2-stroke,
so the two pistons can be 180-degrees out of phase and so can the
displacers).

Don\'t care about vibration and noise for emergency, or running it when i am not around.

See \"Philips Technical Review\" for the full story of the development of
their version of a Stirling engine that could power a lorry. They also
ran them in reverse to make air-liquefying machines.

Links? Actually, i am going to feed it with vaporizing liquid (70% sanitizer). I got a few gallons to burn/dispose, which were obtained when it was HOT item back in the Covid days.
https://www.pearl-hifi.com/06_Lit_Archive/02_PEARL_Arch/Vol_16/Sec_53/Philips_Tech_Review/PTechReview-20-1958_59-245.pdf
Thanks.

I ordered this https://www.ebay.com/itm/203042859494 , which has integrated generator and look more solid in one piece. Just wondering how many Watts can i get out of a gallon of alcohol.

milliwatts until it wears out and falls apart, it is a toy to show how a sterling engine works, not make any kind of usable power
Yeah, most of them don\'t spec the output, except for my first link. If it\'s 150W LED, then it\'s probably 20W output. 5W to 10W for this would be fine. I just need a few seconds to jump start the 100W power relay, after charging for a few minutes.
buy a box of AA batteries
I got boxes of 18650s, but sometimes nowhere to charge them. The sterling engine is probably lighter and take up less space.
the sterling engine is heavier takes up more space, needs fuel making it even more heavy take up even more space , and in the end it isn\'t going to make any usable power
If the concept work, i might 3D print disposable models. It might work with plastic vapor engine. I want to burn/rid of the fuel anyway, instead of dumping them in the drain.
I\'m sure even Rube Goldberg would find it too silly

Depending on the weight/energy ratio, which is the most important factor. I\'ll check when i get it in two weeks, but it doesn\'t look too heavy. The main frame could be plastic, instead of metal. There\'s not much high temp or pressure.
 
lørdag den 8. april 2023 kl. 19.03.07 UTC+2 skrev Ed Lee:
On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 9:36:35 AM UTC-7, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
lørdag den 8. april 2023 kl. 18.06.32 UTC+2 skrev Ed Lee:
On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 8:57:15 AM UTC-7, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
lørdag den 8. april 2023 kl. 17.28.58 UTC+2 skrev Ed Lee:
On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 8:23:49 AM UTC-7, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
lørdag den 8. april 2023 kl. 17.11.10 UTC+2 skrev Ed Lee:
On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 8:01:10 AM UTC-7, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
lørdag den 8. april 2023 kl. 16.35.49 UTC+2 skrev Ed Lee:
On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 7:11:40 AM UTC-7, Chris Jones wrote:
On 8/04/2023 10:37 pm, Ed Lee wrote:
On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 5:26:29 AM UTC-7, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote:

I want to try this emergency battery charger:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185836877680

150W output? Or do they mean 150W LED bulb? Perhaps 10W real output?

What\'s the benefit of twin cylinders vs. the single cylinder version?
Better balance = less vibration and noise. (In effect it is 2-stroke,
so the two pistons can be 180-degrees out of phase and so can the
displacers).

Don\'t care about vibration and noise for emergency, or running it when i am not around.

See \"Philips Technical Review\" for the full story of the development of
their version of a Stirling engine that could power a lorry. They also
ran them in reverse to make air-liquefying machines.

Links? Actually, i am going to feed it with vaporizing liquid (70% sanitizer). I got a few gallons to burn/dispose, which were obtained when it was HOT item back in the Covid days.
https://www.pearl-hifi.com/06_Lit_Archive/02_PEARL_Arch/Vol_16/Sec_53/Philips_Tech_Review/PTechReview-20-1958_59-245.pdf
Thanks.

I ordered this https://www.ebay.com/itm/203042859494 , which has integrated generator and look more solid in one piece. Just wondering how many Watts can i get out of a gallon of alcohol.

milliwatts until it wears out and falls apart, it is a toy to show how a sterling engine works, not make any kind of usable power
Yeah, most of them don\'t spec the output, except for my first link. If it\'s 150W LED, then it\'s probably 20W output. 5W to 10W for this would be fine. I just need a few seconds to jump start the 100W power relay, after charging for a few minutes.
buy a box of AA batteries
I got boxes of 18650s, but sometimes nowhere to charge them. The sterling engine is probably lighter and take up less space.
the sterling engine is heavier takes up more space, needs fuel making it even more heavy take up even more space , and in the end it isn\'t going to make any usable power
If the concept work, i might 3D print disposable models. It might work with plastic vapor engine. I want to burn/rid of the fuel anyway, instead of dumping them in the drain.
I\'m sure even Rube Goldberg would find it too silly
Depending on the weight/energy ratio, which is the most important factor. I\'ll check when i get it in two weeks, but it doesn\'t look too heavy. The main frame could be plastic, instead of metal. There\'s not much high temp or pressure.

An AA battery is few Wh and 23gram

not much high temp or pressure, so very inefficient and very little power.
 
On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 10:30:36 AM UTC-7, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
lørdag den 8. april 2023 kl. 19.03.07 UTC+2 skrev Ed Lee:
On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 9:36:35 AM UTC-7, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
lørdag den 8. april 2023 kl. 18.06.32 UTC+2 skrev Ed Lee:
On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 8:57:15 AM UTC-7, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
lørdag den 8. april 2023 kl. 17.28.58 UTC+2 skrev Ed Lee:
On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 8:23:49 AM UTC-7, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
lørdag den 8. april 2023 kl. 17.11.10 UTC+2 skrev Ed Lee:
On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 8:01:10 AM UTC-7, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
lørdag den 8. april 2023 kl. 16.35.49 UTC+2 skrev Ed Lee:
On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 7:11:40 AM UTC-7, Chris Jones wrote:
On 8/04/2023 10:37 pm, Ed Lee wrote:
On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 5:26:29 AM UTC-7, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote:

I want to try this emergency battery charger:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185836877680

150W output? Or do they mean 150W LED bulb? Perhaps 10W real output?

What\'s the benefit of twin cylinders vs. the single cylinder version?
Better balance = less vibration and noise. (In effect it is 2-stroke,
so the two pistons can be 180-degrees out of phase and so can the
displacers).

Don\'t care about vibration and noise for emergency, or running it when i am not around.

See \"Philips Technical Review\" for the full story of the development of
their version of a Stirling engine that could power a lorry. They also
ran them in reverse to make air-liquefying machines.

Links? Actually, i am going to feed it with vaporizing liquid (70% sanitizer). I got a few gallons to burn/dispose, which were obtained when it was HOT item back in the Covid days.
https://www.pearl-hifi.com/06_Lit_Archive/02_PEARL_Arch/Vol_16/Sec_53/Philips_Tech_Review/PTechReview-20-1958_59-245.pdf
Thanks.

I ordered this https://www.ebay.com/itm/203042859494 , which has integrated generator and look more solid in one piece. Just wondering how many Watts can i get out of a gallon of alcohol.

milliwatts until it wears out and falls apart, it is a toy to show how a sterling engine works, not make any kind of usable power
Yeah, most of them don\'t spec the output, except for my first link. If it\'s 150W LED, then it\'s probably 20W output. 5W to 10W for this would be fine. I just need a few seconds to jump start the 100W power relay, after charging for a few minutes.
buy a box of AA batteries
I got boxes of 18650s, but sometimes nowhere to charge them. The sterling engine is probably lighter and take up less space.
the sterling engine is heavier takes up more space, needs fuel making it even more heavy take up even more space , and in the end it isn\'t going to make any usable power
If the concept work, i might 3D print disposable models. It might work with plastic vapor engine. I want to burn/rid of the fuel anyway, instead of dumping them in the drain.
I\'m sure even Rube Goldberg would find it too silly
Depending on the weight/energy ratio, which is the most important factor. I\'ll check when i get it in two weeks, but it doesn\'t look too heavy. The main frame could be plastic, instead of metal. There\'s not much high temp or pressure.
An AA battery is few Wh and 23gram

not much high temp or pressure, so very inefficient and very little power..

Very wasteful in manufacturing and dispose.
 
On 2023-04-08, Ed Lee <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote:
I want to try this emergency battery charger:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185836877680

150W output? Or do they mean 150W LED bulb? Perhaps 10W real output?

150W input, perhaps 2 x 75W alcohol burners.



--
Jasen.
🇺🇦 Слава Україні
 
On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 4:30:45 AM UTC-7, Jasen Betts wrote:
On 2023-04-08, Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote:
I want to try this emergency battery charger:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185836877680

150W output? Or do they mean 150W LED bulb? Perhaps 10W real output?
150W input, perhaps 2 x 75W alcohol burners.

They have a LED bulb in the picture (not sure if included). Typical LED bulb input is 20W.

I got 70% alcohol. Need to further distill to 90% or burn from heated vapor.

70% might be safer to store than 90%.
 
On Saturday, 8 April 2023 at 13:56:02 UTC+2, Ed Lee wrote:
I want to try this emergency battery charger:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185836877680

150W output? Or do they mean 150W LED bulb? Perhaps 10W real output?

What\'s the benefit of twin cylinders vs. the single cylinder version?
forget an ancient Stirling engine
Magnet-induction offers higher efficiency
 
On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 5:59:00 PM UTC-7, a a wrote:
On Saturday, 8 April 2023 at 13:56:02 UTC+2, Ed Lee wrote:
I want to try this emergency battery charger:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185836877680

150W output? Or do they mean 150W LED bulb? Perhaps 10W real output?

What\'s the benefit of twin cylinders vs. the single cylinder version?
forget an ancient Stirling engine
Magnet-induction offers higher efficiency
That\'s assuming you have stationary electricity source.
 

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